Posts by Had Enough

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Celebrate with me!!!

by silentlambs in

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today marks a milestone in what we are trying to accomplish.

today marks over 2000 hits to silentlambs website.

we can now say honestly, thousands have visited www.silentlambs.org .

Had Enough

Congratulations Silentlambs!!!

I'm sitting here right now with a glass of wine and I do raise it to you for all you have done to make this horrendous crime known to all.

I joined this forum a month ago as a non-active non-associating JW. I, for one, had no idea this kind of problem even existed in the org.

A couple of years ago when my husband (non-jw) suggested that the org. could easily harbour perverts, I was incensed at the thought of that. Never!! never could that happen in the only true religion!!!

What an eye-opener this forum, freeminds, and your website has been. Thank you so much for helping me to "see" without blinders.

Thank you so much too for what your fight has accomplished in helping the victims to not be plagued with guilt and pain and suffering any longer at the hands of their attackers and those who would protect those sick perverts in the name of protecting the "good name of the org."

I hope this will also be a step in the right direction for the molestors, to get the proper help instead of hiding behind the skirts of the org. (if that helps them....I don't know enough about the psychology of the sickness to know what is help or even if any help is possible)

Sorry....I only meant to say thanks

Cheers (raising my glass)
Had Enough

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Rainy Days & Monday Mornings

by Outaservice in

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most normal people i know, and am around look forward to the weekend and nice weather.

even though i have not been a publisher for many years now, i still assoicate week-ends with taking the group out in service and baby sitting a lot of the kids from the hall.

what a pleasure monday mornings were when i could go back to work!.

Had Enough

Hi all:

This is so great to read how you all felt about meetings and service. I grew up constantly feeling like my spirituality was on a rollarcoaster. I had my moments of actual theocratic feelings but most of the time I felt like the rest of you have expressed...like:

-the joy of the blizzard or thunderstorm keeping us from service or meetings

-getting sick on Tuesdays or Sundays or Sat.mornings or pretending to sleep in

-having the bookstudy at our house and hoping no one would show up

-and feeling glad when the speaker didn't show up (except we were always expected to go out in service for that hour "to take advantage of the situation for good"

-and even feeling glad I could stay home with sick kids

How great it is to know that I was not the only one that felt that way, that so many "really deep down inside feels the same when they are honest" as Pathofthorns said.

I can't count the number of times I was made to feel guilty by my ex-husband elder, that other sisters went to the hall sick or other sisters took their sick kids to the hall. Remember hearing this?...What's the point of staying home if you're sick or have a headache, you might as well sit through the meeting sick or with a headache as staying at home feeling the same way.

This is just what I needed to hear to help to bury those old memories of the guilt trips.

Thanks for adding to this great thread. I feel so much better every day.

Had Enough (of the guilt, control, hypocrisy and so on and so on....)

To ZazuWitts-re:W81 Shunning articles

by Had Enough in

hi zazuwitts:.

you asked, on hesterprynes' thread on "questions to shunned ones", if anyone had the article in w81 september 15, on shunning da'd and df'd ones.. i anwered you back that i do have the 2 articles in the w81, 9/15 if you would like me to post them (they total 8 pages) the first is on "df'ing and da'ing-how to view it", and the second is "if a relative is df'd".. i was made very familiar with them at the suggestion of an elder, when my son was da'd a few years ago.

didn't do me any good though.

Had Enough

Hi Zazuwitts:

You asked, on HesterPrynes' thread on "Questions to Shunned Ones", if anyone had the article in W81 September 15, on Shunning da'd and df'd ones.

I anwered you back that I do have the 2 articles in the W81, 9/15 if you would like me to post them (they total 8 pages) The first is on "DF'ing and DA'ing-how to view it", and the second is "If a Relative is DF'd".

I was made very familiar with them at the suggestion of an elder, when my son was da'd a few years ago. Didn't do me any good though. I didn't believe it was right to shun him and so I don't, and I don't shun anyone else either. How cruel it is!

Let me know if you still need them, I copy the info here.

Had Enough

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Question to shunned persons

by HesterPryne in

hello everyone,.

if your jehovah's witness relatves came to you and said..... "praise jah, there has been 'new light" and we can associate with you again!".....

what would you say or do?

Had Enough

Hi Stephenw20:

Just got back online and saw your answer.

I just can't fathom how they expect to get away with blatently lying about shunning on such a public place as their website and expect to get away with it.

More and more people (non-JWs) are becoming aware of the truth about the destruction of families the org. has caused through shunning. They are coming to know that JW family members do shun other family members because they have to.

How can they explain that away? I'd like to hear their answer to that one.

Had Enough

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Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)

by Wounded Heart in

used to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.

i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.

the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.

Had Enough

Hello to WoundedHeart:

Thank you for sharing your invaluable story with us and thanks too to Francoise, Mommie Dark, emyrose and Waiting for adding your experiences. My only knowledge of these disorders comes from the movies based on true stories like Sybil and 3 Faces of Eve.

We all need to be educated in DID and MPD, especially those who are still trapped in the beliefs that so many JWs have about these disorders...that the personalities are actually demon-possession. (I've don't remember if that is the official stand of the org.or not...I'll have to look it up)

I could never believe that was the cause whatsoever, so I was considered spiritually weak for thinking contrary, by those who promoted that belief. I've always believed it was tool of escapism for the victim, but I wish I understood more.

The education you provide us from you experiences is priceless. Please continue to help us understand more if you feel you can. Thank you so much!!!

Had Enough

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Question to shunned persons

by HesterPryne in

hello everyone,.

if your jehovah's witness relatves came to you and said..... "praise jah, there has been 'new light" and we can associate with you again!".....

what would you say or do?

Had Enough

Simon:

I've often wondered too if they fear that masses would leave if they discontinued the shunning rule.

One thing is for sure, if the pressure got so great, from the exposure its getting on the net and in the press, then they will say the same thing they did when the numbers dropped after 1975...that God is just cleansing the org. of those who aren't true worshippers.

Again the exodus will be the fault of the general r&f not the org.

One thing I would like somehow to get the gb to address is why they state on their website, in the QFA section, that family members are not shunned...family ties remain the same. That is an outright lie to the public.

Had Enough

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New District Convention Program

by messenger in

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watchtower convention.

2001 teachers of gods word district convention theocratic simplification.

this year in response to increasing light it has been decided to simplify the convention arrangement for the benefit of the other sheep and further the use of dedicated funds for the glorious spreading of the good news of gods kingdom.

Had Enough

And remember, no tail-gate picnics or going to local fastfood outlets. Lunches must be eaten in your seats and garbage disposed of properly.

Also, remember no walking in the hallways, even if you're stiff or have arthritis and need to move around for a few minutes. That's a no-no. You MUST remain in your seats.

And if you are a single parent with 3 children and one or all are crying, even if you have to hold one in your arms, one by the had and one hanging on your skirt/pants, you must use and obey the QUIET signs.

Had Enough (of rigid rules)

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Question to shunned persons

by HesterPryne in

hello everyone,.

if your jehovah's witness relatves came to you and said..... "praise jah, there has been 'new light" and we can associate with you again!".....

what would you say or do?

Had Enough

Hi Zazuwitts:

As I've said on other posts, shunning has always been a sorespot with me and I would love to see a change. It would return a measure of harmony in my family between my da'd son and his sister who is devastated by this situation and with other family members too.

I have the 2 articles in the W81, 9/15 if you would like me to post them (they total 8 pages) The first is on "DF'ing and DA'ing-how to view it, and the second is "If a Relative is DF'd".

Post me back if you'd still like me to post them here.

Had Enough

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Randall Watters exposed

by StiLLinTruth in

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hello again friends!.

well it was time again for me to take my weekly dose of apostate faeces and see what it tastes like.

decided to check out randy watters this time (we all love him here) and his little testimony on freeminds.org, titled "what happened at bethel in 1980?

Had Enough

JT:

Just an added thought. I do hope that the GB actually reads these sites and gets an eyeful of what some of their members actually think like and talk like. I hope it embarasses them to no end and opens their eyes to what they are producing.

Wishful thinking...on the wrong track... maybe! I just know it embarasses me to think I once belonged whole-heartedly to such a group even though I do have at least some good memories of good, warm-hearted, true-blue believers. These ones would never insult someone who had lost their faith in the org. for whatever reason.

Had Enough

115

Randall Watters exposed

by StiLLinTruth in

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friends

hello again friends!.

well it was time again for me to take my weekly dose of apostate faeces and see what it tastes like.

decided to check out randy watters this time (we all love him here) and his little testimony on freeminds.org, titled "what happened at bethel in 1980?

Had Enough

Hi JT:

Glad you and your wife are having a good giggle! I am now too! I admit guys like these get my goat once in a while. I try very hard to keep my cool, hoping that they will in turn see the real sense of what we're trying to say.

But out and out ignorance and garbage-mouths are not what I expect from those who claim to be in God's org. As bad as I experienced in the org, I never met any who talked like some who come here to "apostate-bash". Maybe I was sheltered I don't know. I do know my tiny mother and many like her would have washed their mouths out with soap and cuffed their ears real good.

Anyway hopefully, there will be some good come out of it...even if it just a laugh for ourselves....

Had Enough (more and more each day)